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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2011, 04:07:53 pm »
It is, certainly, unfortunate that Benson & Sydney Grew didn't have the chance to meet. I remember Sydney Grew's insistence on the greatness of A.C.Benson's Diaries & the shamefulness of their languishingly non-published state on the old BBC Boards. Here, a member (self-deleted) Crabs-over-the-Ocean alluded to this neglect:

And A. C. Benson's vast diary is not read at all because after eighty-eight years it still awaits publication. (April 28, 2010)

So that makes two admirers. Sydney Grew & Crabs-over-the-Ocean. Sadly, I believe Sydney Grew was absent when Crabs-over-the-Ocean was present. Such bad luck!

On September 14, 2009 Sydney Grew kindly transcribed a poem of Benson's, 'Twenty Years Ago' for other members' enjoyment.

On July 31, 2009, a lengthy text of A.C.Benson's, from 1902, admonished us, concludingly - via Sydney Grew - that

it used to be asserted that athletics were valuable from a moral point of view, and kept physical temptations at bay. I do not think that this can be maintained, and I am sure that the personal popularity which the athlete enjoys, the almost adoration with which he is often regarded, is of itself a great danger if a boy is prone to sensual faults.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I recall the opening paragraphs of a book charmingly titled 'From a College Window' making an appearance here, too :-\.

I have lately come to perceive that the one thing which gives value to any piece of art, whether it be book, or picture, or music, is that subtle and evasive thing which is called personality. No amount of labour, of zest, even of accomplishment, can make up for the absence of this quality. It must be an almost wholly instinctive thing, I believe. Of course, the mere presence of personality in a work of art is not sufficient, because the personality revealed may be lacking in charm; and charm, again, is an instinctive thing. No artist can set out to capture charm; he will toil all the night and take nothing; but what every artist can and must aim at, is to have a perfectly sincere point of view. He must take his chance as to whether his point of view is an attractive one; but sincerity is the one indispensable thing. It is useless to take opinions on trust, to retail them, to adopt them; they must be formed, created, truly felt. The work of a sincere artist is almost certain to have some value; the work of an insincere artist is of its very nature worthless.


"Personality" & "charm" (or lack of). How interesting that all is.

But Sydney Grew is not here, & no doubt the Benson who is makes no reference to the Benson the one time member so oft invoked.


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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2011, 06:02:11 pm »
(I wonder how he spells "quartet".)

I wonder how he spells Chosstakhoffitch?  That's the acid test, is not it?  :eh:
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2011, 10:49:27 am »
It's more than apparent who is behind this absurd "Benson" login.  Congrats for locking him out - although it should have been permanently.
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2011, 12:37:37 pm »
It's more than apparent who is behind this absurd "Benson" login. 

Is it? I don't see why, but I haven't been around much lately . . .

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2011, 02:12:00 pm »
One lengthy recent theory is here:

It is, certainly, unfortunate that Benson & Sydney Grew didn't have the chance to meet. I remember Sydney Grew's insistence on the greatness of A.C.Benson's Diaries & the shamefulness of their languishingly non-published state on the old BBC Boards. Here, a member (self-deleted) Crabs-over-the-Ocean alluded to this neglect:

And A. C. Benson's vast diary is not read at all because after eighty-eight years it still awaits publication. (April 28, 2010)

So that makes two admirers. Sydney Grew & Crabs-over-the-Ocean. Sadly, I believe Sydney Grew was absent when Crabs-over-the-Ocean was present. Such bad luck!

On September 14, 2009 Sydney Grew kindly transcribed a poem of Benson's, 'Twenty Years Ago' for other members' enjoyment.

On July 31, 2009, a lengthy text of A.C.Benson's, from 1902, admonished us, concludingly - via Sydney Grew - that

it used to be asserted that athletics were valuable from a moral point of view, and kept physical temptations at bay. I do not think that this can be maintained, and I am sure that the personal popularity which the athlete enjoys, the almost adoration with which he is often regarded, is of itself a great danger if a boy is prone to sensual faults.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I recall the opening paragraphs of a book charmingly titled 'From a College Window' making an appearance here, too :-\.

I have lately come to perceive that the one thing which gives value to any piece of art, whether it be book, or picture, or music, is that subtle and evasive thing which is called personality. No amount of labour, of zest, even of accomplishment, can make up for the absence of this quality. It must be an almost wholly instinctive thing, I believe. Of course, the mere presence of personality in a work of art is not sufficient, because the personality revealed may be lacking in charm; and charm, again, is an instinctive thing. No artist can set out to capture charm; he will toil all the night and take nothing; but what every artist can and must aim at, is to have a perfectly sincere point of view. He must take his chance as to whether his point of view is an attractive one; but sincerity is the one indispensable thing. It is useless to take opinions on trust, to retail them, to adopt them; they must be formed, created, truly felt. The work of a sincere artist is almost certain to have some value; the work of an insincere artist is of its very nature worthless.


"Personality" & "charm" (or lack of). How interesting that all is.

But Sydney Grew is not here, & no doubt the Benson who is makes no reference to the Benson the one time member so oft invoked.
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2011, 02:17:01 pm »
Even if Benson wasn't Sydney Grew, he/she was clearly trying to wind members up.

I myself remained resolutely unwound, but I'm not surprised others were.  Despite the lack of any specific personal malice on Benson's part, the deliberate illiteracy and hiding any personality were clearly intended to disrupt.

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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2011, 11:27:32 pm »
The Benson messages read more like very poor imitation of the Grew style to me. No sign of the Grewsome intellect. Over at the Radio 3 Forum hosted by FoR3 there is  newish contributor some seem to think is another composer of at least 2 string quartets (whose second Grew expressed his appreciation of). That seems similarly unlikely to me.

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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2011, 01:07:16 am »
What is wrong with my recent messages:

1- three about about Chinese composers

2- one about the royal wedding in favour

3- the separated at birth which is intended as humorous and has no words

4 - one poem

Why you ban me because of all that?

Please explain your problem in detail so I can do better in future!

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2011, 06:39:14 am »
The Benson messages read more like very poor imitation of the Grew style to me. No sign of the Grewsome intellect. Over at the Radio 3 Forum hosted by FoR3 there is  newish contributor some seem to think is another composer of at least 2 string quartets (whose second Grew expressed his appreciation of). That seems similarly unlikely to me.

Their "Oriental" tone is a bit of a coincidence: given that one of the intellectual Sydney Grew's last observations during the Sean porn spam fest punch up was that he & Sean had a far greater "understanding" of the "Oriental mind" than any other posters here.

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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2011, 09:43:43 am »
One of Benson's earlier messages referenced a member of these board by their real-life name.  That proves beyond all doubt to me that "Benson" is a former member of these boards under a new name.  If he is indeed a banned member, then creeping back under a pseudonym is a breach of the rules.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2011, 10:51:35 am »
... plus the statistical spread of his posts across 24-hour periods is pretty much identical with Grew's, suggesting a time-zone ten or eleven hours ahead of the UK, corresponding to the eastern end of Australia plus Tasmania. Benson's posts are hardly a major annoyance of course, and can easily be ignored, but let's not be in any doubt about who is behind them.  :P

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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2011, 04:26:48 pm »
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We have imposed a permanent ban on the user account Benson, as the balance of evidence indicates that Benson and (banned ex-member) Sydney Grew are the same individual.

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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2011, 05:02:21 pm »
... let's not be in any doubt about who is behind them.

Unless the IP address is identical, let us, quite to the contrary, be ready to doubt. Can these piffling messages truly be from the great Syd Grew? No, no, it surely cannot be.

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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2011, 05:47:30 pm »
Unless the IP address is identical, let us, quite to the contrary, be ready to doubt.
Bryn, Grew is certainly techie enough to use a proxy server so the IP address needn't be the same.

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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2011, 07:46:20 pm »
Bryn, Grew is certainly techie enough to use a proxy server so the IP address needn't be the same.

Not to mention logging in at an internet cafe, a friend's house, via a mobile phone...
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